• The Difference Between Arabs & Chabad

    Ram Fruman, head of the Secular Forum in Israel, spends his free time trying to keep Chabad away from the local high school in his town • He recently had an argument with two secular girls about the Chabad activity while trying to compare it to Arabs who would come to persuade the girls to become Muslim • Read More

    Excerpt from an article by Ram Fruman / Haaretz

    In my free time I sometimes go about keeping Chabad emissaries away from the neighborhood high school. One recent Friday, when I asked the emissaries to keep a reasonable distance from the school, according to police instructions, I unwillingly became part of a fascinating encounter with two apparently secular high school girls. They were shocked that I was being hostile to Chabad emissaries. Their attitude, combining scorn, shock and considerable confidence, taught me a valuable lesson about our society.

    “This is a Jewish state,” was the first argument made by one of the girls. How dare I argue that Chabad’s envoys aren’t doing holy work in a state defined as Jewish? I explained to them that some children feel harassed by the emissaries’ aggressive conduct and some parents object to these religious agents coming into direct contact with their children.

    At this point the girls moved to the other side of the equation and one announced, “This is a democratic state.” Another girl argued that if secular people organized activity with children in a religious neighborhood it would bother the residents.

    “What’s that got to do with anything?” answered the girl who was speaking to me contemptuously. “That there is a religious neighborhood, this isn’t a secular neighborhood.” In other words, a neighborhood where 99 percent of the residents are secular isn’t entitled to be classified secular. As far as she was concerned, democracy worked unilaterally – it protects the religious people from any secular interference, while at the same time enabling the religious people to do as they liked in a secular neighborhood.

    Usually I don’t talk to teenagers much, but Chabad emissaries themselves are extremely skilled in democratic-liberal-pluralistic discourse. Any attempt to object to their activity immediately invokes praise of democracy, liberalism and pluralism. Of course, these values are always applied one-sidedly.

    Imagine the responses to a stand for selling literature, films or philosophical texts in the heart of Meah Shearim. Even I would call it “provocation.” But doing the opposite – setting up a Chabad stand by a state school – is not a provocation.

    “How would you feel,” I made the mistake of asking them, “if an Arab stood here and tried to persuade you to take an interest in Islam or Christianity?” It’s hard to describe the horrified expression on the girls’ faces. “What’s that got to do with anything?” one of them repeated with disgust. “How dare you compare between an Arab and a religious person?”

    I answered: “We live in a democracy, in which Arabs, religious and secular people have equal rights.” But it was no good. I lost them. The girl I spoke to was agitated.

    “Do you get how wacky this person is,” she told her friend. “He thinks Arabs and Jews have the same rights here.”

    Her friend only mumbled repeatedly that “this is a Jewish state.” But my interlocutor did not calm down. The whole time I was there she shared her impressions of my mental disease, saying repeatedly I’m a sick person equating Jews and Arabs.

    These were students of a prestigious high school, not fringe or hilltop youth. Their shock and aversion to the opinions I expressed reflect better than anything else the direction Israel is going in…



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    1. There’s a simple answer to the non-religious Jew, and non-Jew (!) living in ‘The Holy Land.’
      Do you, the secular person, want your heartfelt wishes to be fulfilled by: spouses, children, family, etc.?
      The Holy Land was ‘founded’ by our Avos & Immos, and very many very righteous Jewish men & women desired that the residents of ‘Eretz Yisroel’ should observe ‘The Taryag Mitzvot’ & ‘The 7 Noahide Laws.’
      So, if we decide not to follow these religious guidelines, imperatives, directives, why expect others to honor us?
      This question is not a religious one, but a moral one. There’s no monarchy, democracy, etc. without morals…chaos is the result.
      One who searches his/her heart knows this is true…those who don’t…sad.

      Boruch N Hoffinger
    2. Wonderful article. Hopefully Mr. Ironically-named “Frum-man” will wake up, and in a few years we can read about his work on behalf of the local Chabad House.

      Mordy #2
    3. To Mordy #2
      Great comment! Sagacious!
      I sincerely hope Chabad and others try their best to start and continue
      classes in Torah to as many Israelis as possible. Especially
      (I started a ‘7 Noahide Laws’ class in Crown Heights)

      Boruch N Hoffinger
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