• 4) Can Israeli Flags Be Waved At Chabad Events?

    Shlichus According To The Rebbe #4: With the annual Kinus Hashluchim a mere few weeks away, ChabadInfo.com presents the fourth installment of directives of the Rebbe to Shluchim, focusing on directives that the Shluchim seem to be unaware of ● Today, a letter explaining why Chabad cannot wave Israeli flags at Chabad events ● Read More

    The year 5740 was the first time that Lag Baomer parades took place around Israel. One of the cities where the event took place was the city of Yoqneam in Israel. In line with the Rebbe’s view about Zionism, the organizers did not wave any Israeli flags during the parade.

    A few months after the parade, Mrs. Tziporah Amit, the director of the local school, wrote a long letter to the Rebbe, asking (among other questions), why there was no Israeli flag during the parade. The Rebbe responded to her letter at length, and as a postscript the Rebbe wrote:

    “P.S. Regarding what you wrote about the fact that Israeli flags were not waved during the abovementioned parade, and asked what the reason is.

    You are surely aware that there is a directive to all Chabad Askanim and activists to try to spread Judaism, Torah and Mitzvos as much as possible, to all Jews without involving any politics or partisan affiliations, and definitely not to get involved in aspects of Machlokes, or anything else which might prevent someone from adding Torah and Mitzvos – You are surely aware that there are various groups that, for various reasons, will not participate in a Lag Baomer parade where an Israeli flag is waved, and why should we alienate many Jewish children [from participating]?

    I strongly hope that after you review the abovementioned, you will not only understand the reason for said behavior, but will also be able to explain it to those who ask you about it.

    I would like to add an important point, that you are surely aware of, and follow it in her work in the field of education, and that is a basic rule of education – that an educator tries to direct all his focus and that of the students to the focal point which is being transmitted to those being educated, without distracting them with other ideas, whichever they may be, even if they are beneficial…”

    Rebbe

     

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    1. Thank you very much. B’makom sh’ein ish…

      citizen berel
    2. Its says nowhere in the article that this is a Chabad house, its a community center, that’s it!

      wrong heading
    3. Thefollowing is the Satmer Rebbes opinion why Advocating Herzl’s plan to establisha Jewish government without Messiach is in violation with 2 of the 13
      principles of the Jewish Religion

      A) Hashem punishes, B). Waiting for Meshiach,

      1) It is important to remember that Jewish Sovereignty over Eretz Yisroel is
      CONDITIONAL!!!!

      2) It so happened that in the covenant of Hashem with our father Abraham it was agreed that the punishment
      for violating the Jewish faith, would be Exile/Gules,

      3) Hashem told us thru our NeVeim that the redemption of the Jewish people will be by Mesihach.

      4) The Amoira Shmuel the biggest Poisek in his Generation says: That Hashems decree on us to WAIT for Meshiach, is meant for Mesihachs
      SOLE ACTION to Restore A Jewish Sovereignty and to reestablish a Jewish Government ,””All other attributes to Meshiach can be (and are)disputed””,

      5) The Rambam brings down LeHalucha the words of Shmuel as impartial: “Umri Chacumim” and states that whoever does not WAIT for Meshiach (as described by Shmuel) is an Apikoires

      6) The ReShab Writes a warning for our days: “That even if the Hertzel plan
      would achieve their goal, we must not listen to them in this matter “to make our redemption with our own power”

      7) So any one who is ONLY in the OPINION that Meshiachs JOB may be achieved without him, is JUST Not Waiting for Him and is an Apikoires , and The punishment for contemplating the Herzel plan is pre warned,

      To illustrate the above, envision yourself with the following Mushel:

      You see a group of people waiting at a bus stop, it is assumed that these people are waiting for a bus to arrive and to take them to a certain destination,

      A taxi drives by, and yells out: You people are waiting for noting, no bus will
      arrive and the bus shelter will collapse on your head, hop into my taxi,

      First group of Non Waiters

      A few people pass by and say we have been waiting at another stop, and the bus broke down in front of our nose so we started to walk, join us

      Second group of Non Waiters

      Another group of people come by and say: Come help to push the broken bus

      Third group of Non Waiters

      A cyclist drives by, his Device blaring: we want the bus now we don’t want to
      wait

      Fourth group of Non Waiters

      A horse and buggy passes by and yells out, I am a professional mechanic, if the bus will ever be fixed you won’t we be able to afford the fare, hop
      unto my buggy,

      Fifth group of Non Waiters

      As the group of Waiters dwindle one Waiter says to the fellow next to him, I know the bus manufacturer and his product, even I will be here by myself I will remain Waiting , the fellow next to him replies , but explain me why did the bus manufacturer tell us to wait for abus when he also manufactures planes trains, ships, tanks cars, bike, scooters?, and why such lousy shelter?

      The first Waiter replies, I do not understand the logic behind His plan, but HE
      said when the bus will arrive the plan will be self-understood WAITING is a stage of a resolute inactive passive behavior,
      WAITING when decreed by a SUPER BEING, has to become a frame of mind, Like it or not, practical or not,
      Jews have to wait for Meshiach to create a Jewish State, creating a Jewish state without him, one becomes a Non Waiter, which the Rambam calls an
      APIKOIRES,

      SUMMERY

      In the beginning of the Common Era the Amoire Shmuel formulated his successful campaign against early Christians and devised a slogan that said
      “” The ONLY difference between before Meshiach and after Meshiach is HIM
      establishing of a Jewish Independent Government””” , which Yoshke failed to accomplish ,

      Bavli prods 5 times the soundness and scope of Shmuels slogan by analyzing 5 statements that broadens the scope of Meshiachs Actions/Era , but all 5
      statements agree that the reestablishing of a Jewish government is exclusively Meshiachs role for the Jewish people,(V”Yoel Moshe) and the Rambam Codifies this as Halacha by Proclaiming for us today :

      1) Jews wait for Meshiach to be free of non Jewish governments, by Meshiach
      Himself establishing a Jewish sovereignty,

      2) All other objectives that might result at the era of Meshiach does not necessarily have to happen by Meshiach Personally,

      3) Do Not Talk about the OTHER OBJECTIVES when highlighting Meshiachs Objective (as Shmuel has done in his campaign),

      4) Whoever does not believe the above or does not WAIT for Meshiach to do the creation of the Jewish State is an A P I K O R E S

      Please be open minded by joining the Satmers in prayers, that Hashem should not punish us again, because of those who are actively Non-Waiters

      Yidel Warter

      Yidel Warter
    4. Vahavta Leriecha Kamocha Ze Klal Gadol B’Torah. Yidel, what happens when the bus gets here but you are at the wrong bus stop!?

      chonye
    5. Wow so the satmar rebbe is also against the rebbes mesciach campain

      770er
    6. by the same logic, there should be no yellow “moshiach” flags at any events. if it discourages jews from attending – rightfully or not – they should not be there.

      kevi
    7. Dear ‘Kevi,’ The word ‘Moshiach’ is mentioned scores, hundreds of times all over the Jewish liturgy. ‘Moshiach’ is a basic Jewish belief and our great commentators speak about it often an discuss the ‘Halachot’ about it. “Anyone who does not believe in [Mashiach], or whoever does not look forward to his coming,6 denies not only [the teachings of] the other prophets but [also those] of the Torah and of Moses our Teacher. For the Torah attested to him, as it is said:” “G-d, your G-d, will return your captivity and have mercy on you. He will return and gather you [from all the nations whither G-d, your G-d, has scattered you]. If your banished shall be at the utmost end of the heavens [G-d, your G-d, will gather you from there]… and G-d, your G-d, will bring you [to the land that your fathers possessed, and you will possess it]…”7Rambam, Hilchot Melachim… Any Jew who doesn’t want a part of the concept of ‘Moshiach’ doesn’t want Judaism…simple. Boruch N. Hoffinger bhoffinger@aol.com

      bourchn
    8. Are we saying that the WHOLE reason for not displaying Israeli flags at Chabad events is ONLY because it may keep some people away from participating?? Does the Rebbe mean that if one can make sure that there are not anti-Zionists around, that is OK to display the Israeli flag then??
      Aren’t there more profound reasons than that? Doesn’t Zionism, as political doctrine, go in the face of authentic Yiddishkeit, let alone Chassidus?

      Shimon
    9. I went over all the gemuras and the Rambam that Warter is writing about it seems that it smacks in the face on everything in the Lubavitch camp about meshiach and zionisim
      I am surprised that no one on this site was able to refute him

      Berl
    10. What volume of igros is this from? Can you please provide the actual source?
      Thanks,

      Source
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